

Detroit and Ann Arbor, Michigan · 1966–1969 · 2 bands
A Detroit ballroom and an Ann Arbor commune, where the MC5 were the house band and the Stooges were their little brothers, until one record-label trip in 1968 signed them both.
The Grande's house band from its opening night, managed by John Sinclair, and the band that recorded its debut, Kick Out the Jams, live in that room over two nights in October 1968.
The MC5's little brother band, who opened for them and reached Elektra on Wayne Kramer's tip; their band house on Packard Road, the Fun House, gave their second album its name.
Detroit and Ann Arbor, Michigan · 1966–1969
The Grande Ballroom opened in Detroit on 7 October 1966, to about sixty people, with the MC5 on the bill, and the band became its anchor, playing there at least once a week. Their manager, John Sinclair, ran Trans-Love Energies, a commune that moved in May 1968 to a big house at 1510 Hill Street in Ann Arbor. For a while the Stooges counted as a Trans-Love band too; they lived across town in their own band house on Packard Road, the Fun House their second album is named after. Sinclair recommended them to the Grande's owner, Russ Gibb, and they first played there in January 1968, on a bill headed by John Mayall.
The two bands met their record label on the same weekend. In September 1968 Elektra's Danny Fields flew in to hear the MC5, at the Grande and at a benefit in Ann Arbor's Union Ballroom where the Stooges were playing too; Fields has said Wayne Kramer told him that if he liked the MC5 he'd like their little brother band. Elektra signed both on 26 September, the Stooges for $5,000 as the small half of what Fields called a package deal. The room came apart within a year: Elektra dropped the MC5 in April 1969, the band left Sinclair's politics that June, and in July, days after both bands played a benefit for him at the Grande, Sinclair went to prison.
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NEW YORK · 61–65Detroit–Ann Arbor
DETROIT · 66–69

DÜSSELDORF · 68–74CBGB


NEW YORK · 74–77Manchester

MANCHESTER · 76–81No Wave



LOWER MANHATTAN · 78–83SST Records


LOS ANGELES · 78–904AD



LONDON · 80–95DC Hardcore


WASHINGTON DC · 80–93Bristol

BRISTOL · 88–97Seattle

SEATTLE · 88–92Riot Grrrl

OLYMPIA · 90–94Elephant 6

DENVER → ATHENS · 93–00Lower East Side



NEW YORK · 99–05PC Music

LONDON · 13–17The Windmill Scene


BRIXTON · 16–The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame calls the Stooges "punk before punk existed" and credits the MC5 with creating its template, and the Ramones named the MC5 first among their influences. The Stooges' first album was produced by John Cale of the Velvet Underground; on this map the bands that name the Stooges run from the Ramones and Joy Division to Black Flag.
No one they name is on the map.
David Bowienames The Stooges
Suicidenames The Stooges
Ramonesnames The Stooges +1
Talking Headsnames The Stooges
Black Flagnames The Stooges
Buzzcocksnames The Stooges
Joy Divisionnames The Stooges
Minutemennames The Stooges
Sonic Youthnames The Stooges
Spacemen 3names The Stooges
The Smithsnames The Stooges
The Jesus and Mary Chainnames The Stooges
Nirvananames The Stooges
Ridenames The Stooges
Spiritualizednames The Stooges
Borisnames The Stooges
Mogwainames The Stooges
The White Stripesnames The Stooges